Article 15 court martial? Isn't that non-judicial punishment, rather than a court martial?

Still, this is an abuse (especially on Article 134, the 'general shaft ya tool') of the UCMJ. Saw a lot of it when I was in the Navy; guess they can do anything they [higher ups in the chain of command] want. A court martial would have involved lawyers and rights; an Article 15 means yer arse belongs to 'The Man.'

Technically, both Article 15 and courts-martial address similar issues: military offenses that are criminal in nature. The differences arise in seriousness of the offense, convening or charging authority and (occasionally) the desired punishment. Article 15s are termed "non-judicial punishment" because there are no lawyers or judges involved.

If you do something bad that your Company CO sees, you might get an Article 15 from him. Army (and surely oher service) regulations strictly limit what punishments he may award. If it's REALLY bad you can get sent to the Battalion CO who's authorized to give more severe punishments.

Back when I was a slick sleeve there was also a "First Sergeant's Article 15".) ("Now son, you can have my article 15 or I'll take you to the CO for his.") It's much better to have to mow the grass around the orderly room than to lose a stripe or get docked 14 days' pay.

That's what I meant, smaug. Been out awhile, and since I never really got into trouble, or at least got caught, I tend to forget things like that. The article I read indicated that Leonard did indeed confer with a lawyer and have to stand in front of a judge.

Hello, this is leonard Clark. I'm still alive and still very much opposed to this lunacy. GOD willing nobody else in my unit will be killed or maimed. For now, all I can do is pray to GOD and lean on my brother soldiers when things get tough.
Thank you very much for your concern and may GOD help us all.
Leonard Clark :)
N.O. M.A.S. !
Si, Se Puede !

It's great to hear from you, Leonard. I'm glad you're still OK. Drop us a line from time to time and let us know how things are going. By the way, when is your unit due to return home?

Hello, and thanks for not fogetting my fellow soldiers over here. I cannot say when I get back all I can say is that not to long from now, we will be back GOD willing and that I will be a future candidate for the U.S. Senate in 2006 after I am discharged from the Army
I cannot campaign until I get out of the Army but I assure you that my adversaries will not stop the message that I will bring to this race nor will the press be able to hide the issues that will be brought out.
Thanks again for your unfailing support,
Leonard Clark
Iraq

Just Returned from HellAuthor
Donnie Rumsfeld
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Iraqi Veteran declaring intention to run for 2006 Senate
I have just returned from Iraq and even though Mr. Hackett may not be from my branch of the service : I am mad as hell about what has transpired because he is a fellow soldier. The tactics that have been used against myself and other democratic candidates such as Mr. Pederson from Arizona, ever since we had announced our intentions to run for the U.S. Senate have taught me that our democracy is not always so democratic.

My family's benefits and income were threatened (and therefore they were threatened with being thrown out on the street) as well as myself being threatened with imprisonment in a federal pen for the rest of my life. Then just recently my state taxes were audited (supposedly) randomly while I was over in a combat zone and every penny was then taken straight out of my family's bank account. So, I have learned the hard way about so called American Democracy.

But I know one thing : They never should have attacked my family for now I will fight non-violently the fight to rescue the War on Terror from those who have hijacked it to enrich themselves and their corporate lackeys and who have therefore lowered the defenses of our nation. I will also demand that Mr. Murtha's plan on U.S. Soldiers being withdrawn be acted on with a quick reaction force being

I have just returned from Iraq and I still see the same lie being foisted upon you the American people. I have ridden first hand day by day either as gunner or driver in my Humvee for a year long tour of hell in Iraq where everyday you have to play Russian Roulette with your life. Imagine having someone place a 357 magnum pistol next to your head everyday and praying that it won't go off. Then you start to get a feel for what some of us soldiers feel who go out of the wire everyday in Iraq.

Of course you always hear that we volunteered to defend our country and place our lives on the line well that it is true but what we did not volunteer for was to be slaughtered like sheep. Here's an example of what I mean :

Anybody who drives down the roads of Iraq through its cities and villages will pass by whole stretches of road where slaughter markets for sheep rebound. The stench from these slaughtered sheep is so strong sometimes that it is all one can do not to vomit when passing them. The passerby will see these poor sheep writhing and twisting in pain as their throats are cut and it is truly a pitiful sight as they slowly die with no way to defend themselves as their blood drains out in the street.

Well, the reason I had to bring up that whole example is to dismiss the criticism that we soldiers should die like sheep. But that's not the way it's going to be told to you the American people. What I have just told you is only the tip of the iceberg if you knew everything you would even redouble your efforts to get my poor fellow soldiers out of this grand lie foisted on us by grand infamous liars.

I am not going to stand by as an American citizen and let this happen I will not be that citizen who says he was just following orders as the Nazi war criminals stated at Nuremburg. I am for fighting the War on Terror and not hijacking it to enrich my personal corporate donor friends and lackeys.

Our country is under attack from terrorist without and tyrants within.
Abraham Lincoln was right in his 1838 speech when he stated that the greatest danger that this country could face wouldn't be from the enemies outside of our country but from domestic tyrants inside it.

Of course now there are those fellow American citizens who wish to do those of us violence for telling the truth. If they carry out these acts of violence against us: the People who wish to bring back our soldiers from this lying hell in Iraq then they are no different from the foreign terrorist who tried to kill me and my fellow soldiers in Iraq. The only difference will be that they will have become domestic terrorist instead of foreign ones in the vein of Timothy McVeigh.
The people that I follow are those who made our country an even better democracy through non-violence and the fact that "Right" was on their side, people such as Dr. Martin Luther King and Caeser Chaverz.

I will be officially running for the U.S. Senate as of March 29, 2006 and I will not officially campaign for it until that date.my views do not represent the U.S. government nor the Department of Defense

Leonard Clark
Kindergarten teacher
and damned liberal
(always the damned liberal)

Thanks, Len. If you're not aware of it, you've been the subject of a blogpost at Jo Fish's corner of the oxygen-breathing universe.
http://www.usndemvet.com/blog/archives/003101.html

Lenny - Did you run xcountry in HS?

Yes, I did.
Leonard